community engadement - just a thought

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    Götz Echtenacher

    I think this is a nice idea, but my experience is that you would have to take the initiative and not wait for RC to do it. I would be willing to go along with it to a certain extent, as in provide my experience. If you want, it could then be proof viewed by RC to make sure it doesn't contain any nonsense. On the other hand, there are tons of how-to videos for other software that have no association to the developers...

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    Tom Foster

    Pity if RC wouldn't do it - they know best of anyone how the algorithms work, and so really how to finesse the system.

    This (based on a series of real cases) would be a way to get that true knowledge out into public domain, rather than hoping RC will write extensive generalised guides.

    There are many expert users who offer their experience, but the best bits are empirical discoveries around the black-box, which I suspect may still contain some misconceptions, rather than based on true knowledge of the algoritms.

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    Götz Echtenacher

    Well, I know first hand that there just isn't enough time for everything at the "moment". I also know that input in this respect isusually greatly appreciated by RC. Input meaning actually doing it.  ;-)

    Another aspect is that the best manuals are written by USERS and not by the developers. That is because the DEvs know their product so well that they cannot imagine what problems one might have when not knowing it. Also, they target their developement at very specific problems, never anticipating that there might be a different way to use this feature or that people migh prefer something else. There are people employed at software companies that spend their whole woking day trying to crash the programs just by doing weird and unpredictable stuff with it.

    Finally, users will probably come up with many more ways of how to use the software or how to do certain things efficiently.

    So there you go...   :-D

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    Heiko

    Thanks for the feedback guys. 

    And I Like your "just do it" approach, Götz :-)

    As you might know, I'm pretty new here and cant contribute much yet when it comes to knowledge or experience.

    However after what Götz said what I could imagine:

    We set up a Facebook Group where users can post their problem and source images.

    I could set up some blog - then we pick up an interesting case from facebook now and then and do a screenshot based tutorial on that blog.

    If Götz and other experienced users would contribute their experience - I - and maybe other newbies - could put that into an article.

    If CR then wants to jump in at some point in time - even better.

    Should we try this?

     

     

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    Tom Foster

    Brilliant! But anything definitive shouldn't be put on FB, which is so ephemeral and unsearchable - it must go on this or another proper enduring forum/repository/wiki. Even a blog isn't too great from that POV.

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    Heiko

    totally agree that these are not the perfect option platform-wise. I just thought they might be the quickest to get us going and see if demand is actually there.

    If there are other suggestion even better. 

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    MichaelRodson

    in my opinion it is better to create a separate section of the forum for this, FB or any other source isn't great idea as for me

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    Götz Echtenacher

    I agree, no facebook or such. Why not just do it here??

    The main part is the video/guide anyway and not the place where we communicate.

    I don't have the knowledge and/or time to create a good guide or video but I can contribute some experience.

    And if we have something going and reach an impass, I am absolutely certain we will get help from RC if we ask, be it some specific gap in outr knowledge or a place to present the material.

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    Heiko

    sounds very good.

    Do we need video in the first place?

    Or would a detailed screenshot-based project walkthrough be good enough?

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    Götz Echtenacher

    Nope, it's just that you said "video tutorial" in your OP...  :-)

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    Michal | CR

    Hi Guys,
    We really like the idea and initiative.

    Maybe we can create a new topic for it? I do not know ... we can call it "Community Workflows" ??

    Then there can be a pinned topic called for example "Next Wokflow Voting Area" where users will be able to add new workflow request and there is a vote for each post ... so this way you will see which workflows are most preffered by other users.

    We can also sponsor this initiative with licenses ...

    What would you say?

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    Heiko

    I Like it - as said: with the backup of a senior user I'd be happy to contribute the writing

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    Götz Echtenacher

    Like it too!

    That's much better than everybody asking about their own projects.

    We could also do some kind of competition with difficult cases that people can throw in the pot - the one who gets the best results is the hero.  :-)

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    Tom Foster

    and gets a license, Michal said!

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    Zuzana Ďuríčková CR

    Hello Everyone,

    we have created a new topic in the community part of this forum, where you can post the created tutorials or videos. You can find it here:
    https://support.capturingreality.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/360000153331-Community-Workflows

    We have also created a pinned post called „Next Workflow Voting Area”, where users can post their ideas and requests for future workflows and tutorials:
    https://support.capturingreality.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360002211431-Next-Wokflow-Voting-Area

    For now, you can contact me with the requests for editing and deleting posts, in the future we can add some privileges for you so that you will be able to manage it by yourself to some extent.

    Thanks again for your ideas, your initiative is much appreciated. 

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    Lucia CR

    @Zuzana: where can they contact you?

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    Zuzana Ďuríčková CR

    Hello,

    Thanks Lubenko, good point.

    You can contact us with such requests via the contact form on our webpage https://www.capturingreality.com/Contact 

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