ppi projects not portable?

February 14, 2020 13:43

hi,

trying to understand why i canti open ppi projects on different machines ? i dont see the advantage to you since i pay per input... not per machine ?

i am using ppi on my laptop in the field to capture and preview and then move to a workstation at the office since its much faster to work on.

when i pre-process projects in the field and then try to open them on my workstation at the office i get a error stating

cannot load the project that was locked to another machine

so then i have to import the images on my office machine and process again there

i thought i pay per input not per machine - so there is really no advantage to you to also lock projects to the machine and just a big waste of time for me ?

also now my projects are not portable even after i have licenced my inputs ? so what happens if i get a new workstation or computer and need to move my projects over ? none of them will work ?

please let me know!

Karsten

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Erik Kubiňan CR

February 14, 2020 13:57
The images are re-usable, so basically you go in the field do a draft alignment to see the weak and the strong spots and then create a whole new project in house where the alignment will of course take much longer with the stronger settings. One of the reasons for the lock is our security but it is planned to be removed in the future. I cannot guarantee when exactly but the will to remove the lock is there.
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Karsten Becker

February 14, 2020 14:28
ok great my main concern is loosing my projects if i move to a different machine so as long as i can address this in the future it would be great

for now the ability to see drafts in the field is very helpful without having to pay for a licence just to work remotely

we are also trying out the ppi workflow along with the monthly licence workflow to see how they help each other
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Karsten Becker

February 14, 2020 18:31
well i am really unable to migrate a ppi project to another machine for processing and licencing as ppi :(

on my field machine i have added control points to align everything and ensure my photos are adequate

but when trying to export my control points along with the images to the larger system for at work for processing i have to also licence my inputs just to get the control points out...

if i could at least export my control points then i could load the images and the control points, do my hires processing and the licence my inputs to get the 3d model out...

will this restriction be removed as well or is it here to stay... not seeing the advantages to ppi in a multi workstation workflow

also trying to process large scenes at hi-res takes days on a field laptop and i have not been able to complete the process once due to multiple crashes all the time and the tress on the hardware due to low ram / cpu issues
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Erik Kubiňan CR

February 17, 2020 06:26
I don't have any specific information about the export of Control Points, but I doubt this would become possible.
Regarding the on field processing, we cannot make this easy for "any" laptop but I am quite sure that if you don't go for a detailed calculation but more of a preview this can be done quite fast even on a lower configuration. If you wish to work between projects and on multiple machines, then I suggest you to consider getting a PGM license, it would be more viable for such workflow.
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Karsten Becker

February 18, 2020 20:17
yes i get it - if i can export control points then i can defeat the entire PPI ssytem so no worries there !!

so using in the field for preview works fine and for small jobs as well that dont need big hardware

but the ability to run PPI jobs on other machines would be great (maybe ofter licenceing inputs ?) so if i loose the machine they were created on i dont loose the entier project !

thanks!!!
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Erik Kubiňan CR

February 19, 2020 06:26
That of course does make sense Sir. As I have mentioned in various threads, this lock is really planned to be removed in the future. But, even I don't know when exactly this will be.
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Chris Davies

April 27, 2020 19:43
Any news on this unlock? I just bought a new computer and tried to load a project to work on it. It was created on my old computer
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Erik Kubiňan CR

April 28, 2020 06:49
Not yet unfortunately Sir. I am quite sure there will be an announcement about this when it comes alive. It is quite a big thing.
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Chris Davies

April 28, 2020 06:55
I am using the same images but completely reprocessing them. I think I can see that the licenses have transported across so I won't have to pay again. It's just the project files that are not portable. Is this correct?
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Erik Kubiňan CR

April 28, 2020 12:29
Right, the data is completely reusable. An L icon would show next to the images in the image list if these are licensed.
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Cosmo Kramer

June 15, 2020 16:52
Hi RC support,

Any update on the unlock? This would be very useful for our process and so we're trying to understand if the unlock will be happening soon or if we need to make other arrangements.

Thanks
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Erik Kubiňan CR

June 17, 2020 07:08
Hello,
unfortunately, I cannot provide you with any specific date or even an approximate guess on when this will be done. I can only say it is planned to be changed once.
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